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Minifig Sword with Jagged Edges with Marbled White Pattern
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0 Minifig Sword with Jagged Edges with Marbled White Pattern 0 Name: 11439p01.dat 0 Author: Javier Orquera [kuramapika1] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2024-09 0 !LICENSE Licensed under CC BY 4.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 BFC CERTIFY CCW 0 !CATEGORY Minifig Accessory 0 !KEYWORDS Bricklink 11439pb01, Rebrickable 11439pat0003, Set 70501, Set 70505 0 !KEYWORDS Set 70594, Set 70599, Set 70600, Set 70602, Set 70603, Set 70678 0 !KEYWORDS Weapon 0 !HISTORY 2023-06-24 [OrionP] Official Update 2023-03 0 !HISTORY 2023-09-30 [MagFors] Added inside surface 0 !HISTORY 2024-10-27 [OrionP] Official Update 2024-09
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1 16 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\11439s03.dat 0 BFC NOCLIP 1 15 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\11439s04.dat 1 15 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\11439s05.dat
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Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
initially submitted the part.
2023-01-14 19:05:01
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-01-14 19:55:02
There is no pattern. What you did was subfiling. You have to send the updated/subfiled version of 11439 to the admin for proxy. To be a pattern the p01 has to have some color:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=11439pb01#T=C
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
submitted a new version of the part.
2023-01-14 20:20:02
Ok. I send the unpatterned file to PT. Added the color 15 to pattern; Is this part now correct?

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]
Part Library Admin
made the following comment.
2023-01-14 20:30:01
You need to describe the pattern, in the description.
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-01-14 21:20:01
* Misses set reference (hold)
* Misses meaningful description
* Consider adding more cross-reference such as BL number ... see:

https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/24087p01.dat
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
submitted a new version of the part.
2023-01-14 22:45:01
Fixed. Now, how I can tackle the diferent colors of the sword? And the other patterns?

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Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]
Part Library Admin
made the following comment.
2023-01-15 09:45:02
Why have you divided the flat side surfaces into halves?
Like here:
4 16 0 -25.255 -7.599 0 -8.689 -5.743 2.136 -8.689 -5.743 1.728 -25.255 -7.599
4 16 0 -25.255 -7.599 0 -8.689 -5.743 -2.136 -8.689 -5.743 -1.728 -25.255 -7.599

Some of the condlines have very bad controlpoints
5 24 3.301 -19.836 3.06 2.282 -19.598 5.778 2.826 -19.836 3.06 2.515 -13.684 4.985
5 24 -3.301 -19.836 3.06 -2.282 -19.598 5.778 -2.826 -19.836 3.06 -2.515 -13.684 4.985
5 24 1.875 -13.684 2.4 1.875 -13.684 4.985 1.587 -14.296 4.714 2.515 -13.684 4.985
5 24 -1.875 -13.684 2.4 -1.875 -13.684 4.985 -1.587 -14.296 4.714 -2.515 -13.684 4.985

Missing condlines
2 4 0 -6.795 -4.281 0 -5 -4.5
2 4 0 -5 4.5 0 -7.662 4.159

Why do you need this many subfiles? As far as I can see these parts are all made of mixing 2 colours.
How do you intend to use the s01 subfile?
Why has the new recessed surface a new shape compared to the s01 subfile?
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
made the following comment.
2023-01-15 12:00:01
We don't have none of the Marbled Trans colors defined. I'll see if I come up with something decent in the LDConfig file.
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
made the following comment.
2023-01-16 18:10:01
Have many subfiles and divided the flat side surfaces because I think it is easy to coloring the part. On my point of vew, it is made of 3 colors.
I send to PT Admin my s01 subfile. I waiting the answer.
The probles are fixed in s02 subfile.
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-01-18 07:45:02
Before I dive into the subs I'd like to know why so many subs are needed at all? I had an exchange whit Ryan Howerter an got this reply:

"...marbling is a process where two existing colors are molded at the same time, it doesn't require a unique color. "With marbled white pattern" just means that the base color has been marbled with standard white. Officially, Lego considered the color to be multicombination - a shorthand for more than one color at once.

You can see in the official Lego renders that they put hard lines between the colors, but it's really just normal 42 Trans-Light Blue and 1 White used at the same time:

https://brickset.com/parts/6022638

In real life, the colors bleed into each other (hence "marbling"), but there is no official designation for that "in-between" color, since it varies based on BOTH colors, and even part-to-part based on fluid dynamics."

Now while I don't think that putting an edge between the colors as in the Brickset picture is what we should do, I would agree that that two subparts are enough. As for the colored part I do think that we actually should define a "Marbled" color with a 240 Alpha as the "Milky" colors and group them with the special colors such as Electric-Contact.

* Beside all this, the tip has to be colored as well:

4 16 0 -101.7124 -2.614 0 -103.76775 -4.73225 1 -103.76775 -4.73225 1 -101.7124 -2.614
4 16 0 -101.7124 -2.614 1 -101.7124 -2.614 1 -101.0148 -1.895 0 -101.0148 -1.895
4 16 0 -101.0148 -1.895 1 -101.0148 -1.895 1 -99.64766 -.486 0 -99.64766 -.486
4 16 1 -103.76775 -4.73225 0 -103.76775 -4.73225 0 -104.30975 -5.54325 1 -104.30975 -5.54325
4 16 -1 -103.76775 -4.73225 0 -103.76775 -4.73225 0 -104.30975 -5.54325 -1 -104.30975 -5.54325
4 16 0 -101.7124 -2.614 0 -103.76775 -4.73225 -1 -103.76775 -4.73225 -1 -101.7124 -2.614
4 16 0 -101.7124 -2.614 -1 -101.7124 -2.614 -1 -101.0148 -1.895 0 -101.0148 -1.895
4 16 0 -101.0148 -1.895 -1 -101.0148 -1.895 -1 -99.64766 -.486 0 -99.64766 -.486
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
made the following comment.
2023-01-18 15:10:02
I will coloring the tip.
There is so many subfiles because it's the way I see this part on pictures.
Now you clarify what marbled is (and I thank you to do it): May I nedd to unify s02 with s03 living s04 or unify s03 with s04 living s02? The pattern nedded to be one subfile as well?
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-01-18 17:50:01
* I'd say that you unify all main color files 2+3+4 into one main color subfile s01 and all colored files 5+6+7 into s02. Then ask the Admin to delete 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (he will not doing it 'til the new PT is life in mid February).

* You'll have to color the buttom as well with two quads:

4 15 -3.6956 5 1.5308 3.6956 5 1.5308 4 5 0 -4 5 0
4 15 -3.6956 5 -1.5308 -4 5 0 4 5 0 3.6956 5 -1.5308

and two chrds.
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
submitted a new version of the part.
2023-01-18 20:35:01
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
made the following comment.
2023-01-18 20:40:02
Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]
Part Library Admin
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-01-19 17:05:01
This part is now broken since the content of the subfiles have been changed.

And I still don't like that the side surfaces are split in two. With a third subfile you can solve this, like the current official 11439 is made.

The official version has a different front and back surface design. Why did you remove that?
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
made the following comment.
2023-01-19 21:45:01
"This part is now broken since the content of the subfiles have been changed."
It is no broken. This is because of the official s01 subfile. You can check the link I post before (there is two s01 sub file, one for the unpatterned version and another for this file. I'm thinking of change the new subfiles)

"And I still don't like that the side surfaces are split in two. With a third subfile you can solve this, like the current official 11439 is made."
Maybe a fourth subfile if I change the new ones.

"The official version has a different front and back surface design. Why did you remove that?"
Because it is bases on the Lego Builder App.
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-02-11 16:08:06
There is a reason why the PT has been created more than 20 years ago: to keep track and keep things together. I'm not gonna check what you uploaded somewhere else for that reason. Please submit and we'll see.
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
submitted a new version of the part.
2023-02-12 00:27:31
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-02-12 16:24:05
* This complementary:

5 24 1 -104.30975 -5.54325 -1 -104.30975 -5.54325 1 -104.5 -6.5 1 -103.76775 -4.73225

has to be moved to s02 otherwise it has to be added to every other patterned part.
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
made the following comment.
2023-02-12 17:45:35
Need to change the subfiles numbers and resubmit again or this is to the PT Admin?
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-02-12 18:58:49
You mean: s02->s01, s03->s02 ...?

Just resubmit with the new numbering.
Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]
Part Library Admin
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-02-12 21:49:06
It would be better if you had all with the same colour in a single subfile. One for each colour.
Put all surfaces that are white in s02, and all surfaces that are uncoloured in s01.
Uncolour all surfaces in s02, and then use it coloured white here in this file.
This will simplify the creation of all the different colour combinations, including the uncolored version.
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
submitted a new version of the part.
2023-02-13 16:58:59
Adapted with new subfiles
Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]
Part Library Admin
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-02-13 21:25:15
No.
Everything uncoloured should be in one subfile, and everything white should be in a second subfile.
This first patterned part should only contain 2 subfiles. No loose bits.
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
submitted a new version of the part.
2023-02-14 13:59:51
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-02-16 09:52:19
* Unnecessary conds and chrds
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
submitted a new version of the part.
2023-02-16 13:56:29
Fixed.
Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]
Part Library Admin
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-02-16 17:21:39
No.
Again.
Everything uncoloured should be in one subfile, and everything white should be in another, second subfile.
This first patterned part should only contain 2 subfiles. No loose bits.
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
made the following comment.
2023-02-16 18:30:14
I'm fine with a few white quads in the main file if this means one less sub.
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
made the following comment.
2023-02-16 18:37:17
Are you suggesting the creation of another subfile (s04) with s02 and the white surfaces?
Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]
Part Library Admin
posted a vote of Hold.
2023-02-16 18:51:17
Yes.
Javier Orquera [kuramapika1]
Part Author
submitted a new version of the part.
2023-02-16 19:41:07
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Certify.
2023-02-25 08:44:05
Vincent Messenet [Cheenzo]
Part Header Editor
posted a vote of Certify.
2023-05-30 09:57:34
Orion Pobursky [OrionP]
Part Library Admin
posted a vote of Admin Review.
2023-06-07 17:46:29
Orion Pobursky [OrionP]
Part Library Admin
2023-06-24 02:37:16
Release 2023-03
Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]
Part Library Admin
initially submitted the part.
2023-10-02 02:13:52
Willy Tschager [Holly-Wood]
Senior Part Reviewer
posted a vote of Certify.
2024-07-10 16:42:32
Gerald Lasser [GeraldLasser]
Part Library Admin
posted a vote of Certify.
2024-09-05 21:30:54
Orion Pobursky [OrionP]
Part Library Admin
posted a vote of Admin Review.
2024-10-20 19:48:06
Orion Pobursky [OrionP]
Part Library Admin
2024-10-27 01:48:43
Release 2024-09
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