Official File parts/23922.dat
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0 Minifig Gun Shooting Blaster with Socket Joint-8 with Friction
0 Name: 23922.dat
0 Author: Bertrand Lequy [Berth]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2025-02
0 !LICENSE Licensed under CC BY 4.0 : see CAreadme.txt
0 !HELP trigger
0 !HELP 1 16 0 -32.85 -17.2 1 0 0 0 .96593 -.25882 0 .25882 .96593 15392.dat
0 !HELP plate 1x1 round
0 !HELP 1 16 0 -28 -30 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0 6141.dat
0 BFC CERTIFY CCW
0 !CATEGORY Minifig Accessory
0 !KEYWORDS Fire Nozzle, Weapon
0 !HISTORY 2016-03-18 {LEGO Digital Designer} Original part shape
0 !HISTORY 2021-05-18 [Berth] File preparation for LDraw Parts Tracker
0 !HISTORY 2025-02-27 [OrionP] Official Update 2025-02
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1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\23922s01.dat
1 16 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\23922s01.dat
0 // handle
1 16 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 -19.4 0 0 0 4 4-4cyli.dat
1 16 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 4-4edge.dat
1 16 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 4 4-4disc.dat
1 16 0 -28 20 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1 joint8socket3.dat
0 // right side adapter to ball socket
4 16 7.75 -18 11 7.75 -38 11 7.567 -37.817 10.683 7.567 -18.183 10.683
4 16 7.567 -18.183 10.683 7.567 -37.817 10.683 7.25 -37.5 10.5 7.25 -18.5 10.5
4 16 7.25 -18.5 10.5 7.25 -37.5 10.5 4 -36.84 10.5 4 -19.16 10.5
2 24 7.75 -38 11 7.567 -37.817 10.683
2 24 7.25 -37.5 10.5 7.567 -37.817 10.683
2 24 7.75 -18 11 7.567 -18.183 10.683
2 24 7.25 -18.5 10.5 7.567 -18.183 10.683
5 24 7.567 -37.817 10.683 7.567 -18.183 10.683 7.75 -18 11 7.25 -37.5 10.5
5 24 7.25 -37.5 10.5 7.25 -18.5 10.5 7.567 -18.183 10.683 4 -36.84 10.5
5 24 7.25 -37.5 10.5 4 -36.84 10.5 7.25 -18.5 10.5 7.567 -37.817 10.683
5 24 7.75 -38 11 7.75 -18 11 7.567 -37.817 10.683 7.75 -32.8 15.2
3 16 2.7 -37.5 10.5 4 -36.84 10.5 7.25 -37.5 10.5
3 16 4 -19.16 10.5 3 -18.5 10.5 7.25 -18.5 10.5
5 24 7.25 -37.5 10.5 2.7 -37.5 10.5 1.7 -37.817 10.683 4 -36.84 10.5
5 24 3 -18.5 10.5 7.25 -18.5 10.5 4 -19.16 10.5 2 -18.183 10.683
5 24 7.567 -37.817 10.683 1.7 -37.817 10.683 7.75 -38 11 2.7 -37.5 10.5
4 16 7.25 -18.5 10.5 3 -18.5 10.5 2 -18.183 10.683 7.567 -18.183 10.683
5 24 2 -18.183 10.683 7.567 -18.183 10.683 0 -18 11 4 -19.16 10.5
4 16 1.7 -37.817 10.683 2.7 -37.5 10.5 7.25 -37.5 10.5 7.567 -37.817 10.683
4 16 2 -18.183 10.683 0 -18 11 7.75 -18 11 7.567 -18.183 10.683
4 16 1.7 -37.817 10.683 7.567 -37.817 10.683 7.75 -38 11 0 -38 11
5 24 7.75 -38 11 0 -38 11 7.567 -37.817 10.683 7.75 -38 22
5 24 0 -18 11 7.75 -18 11 7.75 -18 22 7.567 -18.183 10.683
0 // left side adapter to ball socket
4 16 -7.75 -38 11 -7.75 -18 11 -7.567 -18.183 10.683 -7.567 -37.817 10.683
4 16 -7.567 -37.817 10.683 -7.567 -18.183 10.683 -7.25 -18.5 10.5 -7.25 -37.5 10.5
4 16 -7.25 -37.5 10.5 -7.25 -18.5 10.5 -4 -19.16 10.5 -4 -36.84 10.5
2 24 -7.75 -38 11 -7.567 -37.817 10.683
2 24 -7.25 -37.5 10.5 -7.567 -37.817 10.683
2 24 -7.75 -18 11 -7.567 -18.183 10.683
2 24 -7.25 -18.5 10.5 -7.567 -18.183 10.683
5 24 -7.567 -18.183 10.683 -7.567 -37.817 10.683 -7.75 -38 11 -7.25 -18.5 10.5
5 24 -7.25 -18.5 10.5 -7.25 -37.5 10.5 -7.567 -37.817 10.683 -4 -19.16 10.5
5 24 -7.25 -18.5 10.5 -4 -19.16 10.5 -7.25 -37.5 10.5 -7.567 -18.183 10.683
5 24 -7.75 -18 11 -7.75 -38 11 -7.567 -18.183 10.683 -7.75 -23.2 15.2
3 16 -7.25 -37.5 10.5 -4 -36.84 10.5 -2.7 -37.5 10.5
3 16 -4 -19.16 10.5 -7.25 -18.5 10.5 -3 -18.5 10.5
5 24 -7.25 -18.5 10.5 -3 -18.5 10.5 -4 -19.16 10.5 -7.567 -18.183 10.683
5 24 -7.25 -37.5 10.5 -2.7 -37.5 10.5 -4 -36.84 10.5 -7.567 -37.817 10.683
4 16 -3 -18.5 10.5 -7.25 -18.5 10.5 -7.567 -18.183 10.683 -2 -18.183 10.683
5 24 -7.567 -18.183 10.683 -2 -18.183 10.683 -7.75 -18 11 -3 -18.5 10.5
5 24 -1.7 -37.817 10.683 -7.567 -37.817 10.683 -4 -36.84 10.5 0 -38 11
4 16 -7.567 -37.817 10.683 -7.25 -37.5 10.5 -2.7 -37.5 10.5 -1.7 -37.817 10.683
5 24 -7.75 -38 11 0 -38 11 -1.7 -37.817 10.683 -7.75 -38 22
4 16 -7.567 -18.183 10.683 -7.75 -18 11 0 -18 11 -2 -18.183 10.683
4 16 -7.567 -37.817 10.683 -1.7 -37.817 10.683 0 -38 11 -7.75 -38 11
5 24 0 -18 11 -7.75 -18 11 -7.75 -18 22 -7.567 -18.183 10.683
0 // centre line condlines
5 24 0 -33.653 6 0 -34.339 2.856 2.046 -33.287 6 -2.046 -33.287 6
5 24 0 -16.1 -14.57 0 -16.6 -16.17 -1.65 -16.29 -14.88 1.65 -16.29 -14.88
5 24 0 -18.205 -12.366 0 -16.511 -13.246 2.3 -18.6 -12.86 -2.3 -18.6 -12.86
5 24 0 -16.1 -14.57 0 -16.511 -13.246 -1.65 -16.29 -14.88 1.65 -16.29 -14.88
5 24 0 -38 2.2 0 -38 11 -1.7 -37.817 2.2 1.7 -37.817 2.2
5 24 0 -21.9 -16.2 0 -22.06 6 1.15 -22.038 -16.2 -1.15 -22.038 -16.2
5 24 0 -18 4 0 -18 11 -2 -18.183 10.683 2 -18.183 10.683
5 24 0 -35.2 2.2 0 -34.339 2.856 -1.986 -34.2 2.494 1.986 -34.2 2.494
5 24 1.7 -35.2 2.2 0 -34.339 2.856 0 -35.2 2.2 1.986 -34.2 2.494
5 24 -1.7 -35.2 2.2 0 -34.339 2.856 -1.986 -34.2 2.494 0 -35.2 2.2
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2021-07-07 08:10:01
I made a new ball socket, without a back surface, to be used here, and updated this part with permission from Berth.
Existing certification-votes were deleted.
Existing certification-votes were deleted.
But my review above still stands, and I found some new issues in the position of the body.
According to how this part works in LDD the position of the socket should be "within system".
And I also wonder, is it possible to have a common subfile, used in all three parts, of the inside structure of the body/barrel?
According to how this part works in LDD the position of the socket should be "within system".
And I also wonder, is it possible to have a common subfile, used in all three parts, of the inside structure of the body/barrel?
2021-08-03 20:35:01
2021-08-04 05:35:01
Not CC_BY_4
2024-05-11 07:18:37
It is true that there is the HELP line, but since it will almost always be inserted with the trigger mounted, it is better to also do the shortcut c01 with the trigger as done for 15391.
2025-01-21 20:45:32
I do not understand what your problem with this part is, Massimo?
I connot see why this HELP could be a reason for a HOLD. Just create the shortcuts you're after and leave a note for the admins to remove the HELP.
should be "Towball Socket" instead of "Socket Joint-8"
2025-01-22 16:35:52
every mixel joint part on the pt has that to my knowledge
2025-01-22 16:36:17
has Socket Joint-8 i meant
2025-01-22 16:44:18
Yes, "Socket Joint-8" is the correct use here.
2025-01-22 16:45:35
yes but this a a city part...
BL calls this Towball too:
Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Mini Blaster / Shooter / Fire Nozzle with Tow Ball Socket
BL calls this Towball too:
Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Mini Blaster / Shooter / Fire Nozzle with Tow Ball Socket
2025-01-22 17:23:38
Header Edits
help:
0 !HELP trigger : 15392.dat, position : 0 -32.85 -17.2
0 !HELP trigger : 15392.dat, matrix : 1 0 0 0 .96593 -.25882 0 .25882 .96593
0 !HELP Stud position and matrix : 0 -28 -30 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0
to
0 !HELP trigger
0 !HELP 1 16 0 -32.85 -17.2 1 0 0 0 .96593 -.25882 0 .25882 .96593 15392.dat
0 !HELP plate 1x1 round
0 !HELP 1 16 0 -28 -30 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0 6141.dat
2025-01-22 21:59:25
2025-01-23 14:53:18
* None of the parts using this socket is named towball:
https://library.ldraw.org/parts/22231
please remove your HOLD
https://library.ldraw.org/parts/22231
please remove your HOLD
2025-01-23 16:59:18
I am ok with the prim and its name...
But it is still part of the bigger family "towball"
this is an own connecting family and should be named similar...
(like a stud is always a stud and a pin is always a pin)
the towball family is bigger and older, should be renamed to avoid confusion
But it is still part of the bigger family "towball"
this is an own connecting family and should be named similar...
(like a stud is always a stud and a pin is always a pin)
the towball family is bigger and older, should be renamed to avoid confusion
2025-01-23 18:56:30
We have already had this discusion back when the Mixel parts was made.
The use of Towball is misleading and often misused. There is no famliy of "towball" parts.
This design is know as "Socket Joint-8 with Friction" and that should be used on all parts with this design.
It doesn't matter if this is a System part, or Mixel, Technic, or any one else of the current themes being produced.
The use of Towball is misleading and often misused. There is no famliy of "towball" parts.
This design is know as "Socket Joint-8 with Friction" and that should be used on all parts with this design.
It doesn't matter if this is a System part, or Mixel, Technic, or any one else of the current themes being produced.
2025-01-23 20:31:30
This is not a valid hold reason.
hm not really convinced but ok...
why did we even start another name?
why did we even start another name?
2025-01-24 07:55:03
To have a more generic name. Most of are time is not used as a tow ball at all!
2025-02-16 05:16:45
2025-02-27 19:16:24
Release 2025-02
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15391, Minifig Gun Shooting Blaster
15403, Plate 1 x 2 with Mini Shooting Blaster
IMHO this should be: Minifig Gun Shooting Blaster with Socket Joint-8 with Friction
"Centre" is not needed, and "Fire Nozzle" and "Weapon" as keywords.
Instead of inlining the joint-8 socket, we should adapt the existing primitive.
Create a new primitive, but without the backside structure, that could be used in this new design, and in the old primitive.