Official File parts/44810.dat
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0 Constraction Block 3 x 5 with Partial Gear 28 Tooth Double Bevel
0 Name: 44810.dat
0 Author: Kevin Roach [KROACH]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2023-05
0 !LICENSE Licensed under CC BY 2.0 and CC BY 4.0 : see CAreadme.txt
0 BFC CERTIFY CCW
0 !KEYWORDS bionicle, Matoran, Technic, Torso
0 !HISTORY 2014-03-13 [KROACH] Added Technic to title
0 !HISTORY 2014-03-13 [KROACH] Changed description
0 !HISTORY 2014-03-13 [KROACH] Fixed long quad
0 !HISTORY 2021-04-03 [Sirio] Subparted and fixed description
0 !HISTORY 2023-10-31 [OrionP] Official Update 2023-05
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0 // Subparts
1 16 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\44810s01.dat
1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\44810s01.dat
0 // Beam
0 // Primtiives
1 16 0 0 10 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -40 0 axlehol5.dat
1 16 0 0 -9.5 0 0 4 4 0 0 0 -1 0 4-4ndis.dat
0 BFC INVERTNEXT
1 16 0 0 -9.5 4 0 0 0 0 4 0 -1 0 4-4cylo.dat
1 16 0 0 -10.5 0 0 4 4 0 0 0 1 0 4-4ndis.dat
0 // Faces
3 16 0 4 -9.5 2 10 -9.5 -2 10 -9.5
3 16 0 4 -10.5 -2 10 -10.5 2 10 -10.5
3 16 2 -10 -9.5 0 -4 -9.5 -2 -10 -9.5
3 16 -2 -10 -10.5 0 -4 -10.5 2 -10 -10.5
0 // Gear
0 // Primitives
1 16 0 0 0 0.62349 0 -0.78183 -0.78183 0 -0.62349 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
1 16 0 0 0 0.78183 0 -0.62349 -0.62349 0 -0.78183 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
1 16 0 0 0 0.90097 0 -0.43388 -0.43388 0 -0.90097 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
1 16 0 0 0 0.97493 0 -0.22252 -0.22252 0 -0.97493 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
1 16 0 0 0 0.97493 0 0.22252 0.22252 0 -0.97493 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
1 16 0 0 0 0.90097 0 0.43388 0.43388 0 -0.90097 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
1 16 0 0 0 0.78183 0 0.62349 0.62349 0 -0.78183 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
1 16 0 0 0 0.62349 0 0.78183 0.78183 0 -0.62349 0 1 0 toothb28d.dat
0 // Faces
4 16 -26.538 -13.9226 10 -26.092 -14.8474 4 -24.6977 -17.0661 4 -24.0568 -17.8698 10
4 16 -26.092 -14.8474 4 -27.3568 -15.4565 4 -25.7955 -17.9417 4 -24.6977 -17.0661 4
4 16 -27.3568 -15.4565 4 -27.3568 -15.4565 -4 -25.7955 -17.9417 -4 -25.7955 -17.9417 4
4 16 -27.3568 -15.4565 -4 -26.092 -14.8474 -4 -24.6977 -17.0661 -4 -25.7955 -17.9417 -4
4 16 -26.092 -14.8474 -4 -26.5379 -13.9212 -10 -24.0568 -17.8698 -10 -24.6977 -17.0661 -4
3 16 0 -28 10 -1.028 -29.95 10 1.028 -29.95 10
3 16 0 -28 -10 1.028 -29.95 -10 -1.028 -29.95 -10
0 // Edges
2 24 -24.0568 -17.8698 10 -24.6977 -17.0661 4
2 24 -24.6977 -17.0661 4 -25.7955 -17.9417 4
2 24 -25.7955 -17.9417 4 -25.7955 -17.9417 -4
2 24 -25.7955 -17.9417 -4 -24.6977 -17.0661 -4
2 24 -24.6977 -17.0661 -4 -24.0568 -17.8698 -10
2 24 -24.0568 -17.8698 10 -26.538 -13.9226 10
2 24 -24.6977 -17.0661 4 -26.092 -14.8474 4
2 24 -25.7955 -17.9417 4 -27.3568 -15.4565 4
2 24 -25.7955 -17.9417 -4 -27.3568 -15.4565 -4
2 24 -24.6977 -17.0661 -4 -26.092 -14.8474 -4
2 24 -24.0568 -17.8698 -10 -26.5379 -13.9212 -10
0 // Rear extrusion
0 // Primitives
1 16 0 20 9.46665 2 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 16.53335 rect.dat
0 BFC INVERTNEXT
1 16 0 20 28 2 0 0 0 -.5 0 0 0 -2 box4-2p.dat
1 16 0 18 16 9.3611 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 14 rect.dat
1 16 0 10 30 3 0 0 0 0 3 0 -1 0 2-4ndis.dat
0 BFC INVERTNEXT
1 16 0 10 30 3 0 0 0 0 3 0 -20 0 2-4cylo.dat
1 16 0 10 10 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0 2-4ring2.dat
0 BFC INVERTNEXT
1 16 0 10 -9.5 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 19.5 0 2-4cylo.dat
1 16 0 10 -9.5 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 -1 0 2-4chrd.dat
1 16 0 -10 -9.5 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 0 -1 0 2-4chrd.dat
0 BFC INVERTNEXT
1 16 0 -10 -9.5 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 0 19.5 0 2-4cylo.dat
1 16 0 -10 10 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 0 -1 0 2-4ring1.dat
1 16 0 -10 10 -4 0 0 0 0 -4 0 -8 0 2-4cylo.dat
1 16 0 -10 2 4 0 0 0 0 -4 0 -1 0 2-4ndis.dat
0 // Faces
4 16 -9.3611 18 30 9.3611 18 30 2 19.5 30 -2 19.5 30
3 16 0 15 2 9.3611 18 2 -9.3611 18 2
0 // Front extrusion
0 // Primitives
1 16 0 10 -10.5 -2 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 2-4chrd.dat
1 16 0 10 -10.5 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 -1 0 2-4edge.dat
0 BFC INVERTNEXT
1 16 0 10 -10.5 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 -18.3 0 2-4cyli.dat
1 16 0 10 -29.6 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 -1 .8 2-4edge.dat
1 16 0 10 -29.6 -2 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 .8 2-4ring1.dat
1 16 0 10 -29.6 4 0 0 0 0 4 0 1 1.6 2-4edge.dat
1 16 0 10 -2 4 0 0 0 0 4 0 1 0 2-4edge.dat
1 16 0 10 -28 4 0 0 0 0 4 0 26 0 2-4cyli.dat
1 16 0 -10 -10.5 2 0 0 0 0 -2 0 1 0 2-4chrd.dat
1 16 0 -10 -10.5 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 0 -1 0 2-4edge.dat
0 BFC INVERTNEXT
1 16 0 -10 -10.5 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 0 -18.3 0 2-4cyli.dat
1 16 0 -10 -29.6 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 0 -1 .8 2-4edge.dat
1 16 0 -10 -29.6 2 0 0 0 0 -2 0 1 .8 2-4ring1.dat
1 16 0 -10 -29.6 -4 0 0 0 0 -4 0 1 1.6 2-4edge.dat
1 16 0 -10 -28 -4 0 0 0 0 -4 0 26 0 2-4cyli.dat
1 16 0 -10 -2 -4 0 0 0 0 -4 0 1 0 2-4edge.dat
1 16 0 -10 -2 -4 0 0 0 0 -4 0 1 0 2-4ndis.dat
1 16 0 -20.691 -2 0 0 2 7.309 0 0 0 -1 0 box3u6.dat
0 // Faces
4 16 -1 18 -7.6 -2 20 -7.0667 2 20 -7.0667 1 18 -7.6
3 16 -1 18 -7.6 1 18 -7.6 0 14 -8.6667
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2014-03-13 16:10:04
2014-03-13 16:30:03
I just had a quick look - great work! The only thing I noticed that can be improved: on top side, the beam front quad is too long and bleeds through the gear ring.
2014-03-13 17:40:08
Sorry... one of the quads is now backwards!
I welcome the second eyes. There are things i should catch, but I don't.
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2014-03-13 20:00:06
"There are things i should catch, but I don't."
Same thing for me ;)
Same thing for me ;)
2014-03-13 20:35:02
That kind of is the entire point of this review and certification process anyway. :P
Looks like I was beaten to this one, I've been intending to model it for a while now. Will come back to review in full later, I'm in the middle of finalizing my own part.
Looks like I was beaten to this one, I've been intending to model it for a while now. Will come back to review in full later, I'm in the middle of finalizing my own part.
2014-03-13 20:35:03
This *definitely* is not an Arch though. I strongly believe this belongs in Technic.
That was not suppose to be there.
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2014-03-13 21:35:08
Technic is still missing from the part title, there is no Gear category. :)
Added Technic to title.
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Corrected another error I found.
Okay, took a closer look now. It otherwise looks good to me, but the center axlehole should have a stop of some sort inside it. An axle does not pass through it. There's a stop inside of it.
Added axle stop.
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2014-03-16 02:40:04
Part looks good to me now. I still find the name rather dubious.. this isn't really primarily a gear.
"Technic Connector Block 5 x 3(?) x 3 with Gear 9 Tooth Double Bevel"?
Either that or the good ol' peeron name with "Technic Bionicle Matoran Torso". This part never saw use outside Bionicle (though calling it strictly a matoran torso is a bit wrong...). And if we go by that logic, perhaps this part could be re-oriented to have the gear in the back?
Or is it really a gear first off? I really don't know here. Thoughts, people?
"Technic Connector Block 5 x 3(?) x 3 with Gear 9 Tooth Double Bevel"?
Either that or the good ol' peeron name with "Technic Bionicle Matoran Torso". This part never saw use outside Bionicle (though calling it strictly a matoran torso is a bit wrong...). And if we go by that logic, perhaps this part could be re-oriented to have the gear in the back?
Or is it really a gear first off? I really don't know here. Thoughts, people?
2014-04-06 17:30:11
Maybe something similar to these?
41666.dat "Technic Arm 1 x 6 with Gear 12 Tooth Double Bevel Ends"
41667.dat "Technic Arm 3 x 2 with Gear 36 Tooth Double Bevel Quarter"
How about: "Technic Arm 3 x 5 with Gear 24 Tooth Double Bevel Half" ?
IMO, it should have the same orientation as those two too.
41666.dat "Technic Arm 1 x 6 with Gear 12 Tooth Double Bevel Ends"
41667.dat "Technic Arm 3 x 2 with Gear 36 Tooth Double Bevel Quarter"
How about: "Technic Arm 3 x 5 with Gear 24 Tooth Double Bevel Half" ?
IMO, it should have the same orientation as those two too.
2017-01-30 01:30:00
I'm curious you didn't use primitive toothb12.dat like all other double bevel gear parts instead of creating your own primitive?
Is there that much different to require a new tooth primitive?
Is there that much different to require a new tooth primitive?
2018-06-08 17:55:00
Now that the Constraction is a thing, this should go into it. As a torso, it should be oriented as one.
Subparted, added details and improved geometry.
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I think this part is wrong.
https://www.bricklink.com/PL/44810.jpg?0
First of all it looks very thin. Many sections are only 2 ldu thick. I think it must be 3, or 4 ldu.
The inner diameter of the wheel is now 28 ldu. I think it could be 26-27.
The 3 cutouts on the bottom is only 0,1 ldu deep. I think it's at least 2 ldu.
Missing a vertical box on top of the centre axle hole.
But the main issue is that the pitch between the coggs is wrong. IMO it must be the same as a gear 28.
1 12 0 -40 -20 0.258819 -0.965926 0 0 0 -1 0.965926 0.258819 0 32270.dat
1 15 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 46372.dat
https://www.bricklink.com/PL/44810.jpg?0
First of all it looks very thin. Many sections are only 2 ldu thick. I think it must be 3, or 4 ldu.
The inner diameter of the wheel is now 28 ldu. I think it could be 26-27.
The 3 cutouts on the bottom is only 0,1 ldu deep. I think it's at least 2 ldu.
Missing a vertical box on top of the centre axle hole.
But the main issue is that the pitch between the coggs is wrong. IMO it must be the same as a gear 28.
1 12 0 -40 -20 0.258819 -0.965926 0 0 0 -1 0.965926 0.258819 0 32270.dat
1 15 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 46372.dat
I fixed what was required apart from the depth of the lower cutouts. 2 LDU is not possible, maybe did you mean 0.2 LDU?
I had to modify the primitive toothb28d so as not to have a visible edgeline in the curved toothless section. since the primitive is not symmetrical, in that area the shape is a bit particular, it is not the classic cylindrical, but I think it can work anyway (it is ready as if you were to add another tooth).
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I had to modify the primitive toothb28d so as not to have a visible edgeline in the curved toothless section. since the primitive is not symmetrical, in that area the shape is a bit particular, it is not the classic cylindrical, but I think it can work anyway (it is ready as if you were to add another tooth).
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2021-06-18 15:55:01
What about description, shouldn't it be
"Constraction Block 3 x 5 with Partial Gear 2**8** Tooth Double Bevel"?
"Constraction Block 3 x 5 with Partial Gear 2**8** Tooth Double Bevel"?
Yes, why?
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Missing some edge lines inside the centre axlehole.
The inside surface of the big arch should be hi-res.
The cutouts should be deeper than 0.1 ldu. That's only 0.04 mm and they look deeper in this image.
https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/PL/44810.png
And I think that wall is thicker than 2 ldu.
The inside surface of the big arch should be hi-res.
The cutouts should be deeper than 0.1 ldu. That's only 0.04 mm and they look deeper in this image.
https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/PL/44810.png
And I think that wall is thicker than 2 ldu.
Increased depth to 0.5 LDU.
Added the missing edge lines in the subpart.
Wasn't it said for the thickness of the walls that they were 2 or 4 LDUs? Do I make it from 3 LDUs?
For the cylindrical surface inside the gear, I thought of leaving it at 16 sides, to reduce the number of faces and leave the replacement to LDView.
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Added the missing edge lines in the subpart.
Wasn't it said for the thickness of the walls that they were 2 or 4 LDUs? Do I make it from 3 LDUs?
For the cylindrical surface inside the gear, I thought of leaving it at 16 sides, to reduce the number of faces and leave the replacement to LDView.
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This one is big enough to use the hi-res prim. The difference between the inner and outer lines hurts the eye.
When I look at the image of this part I think the thickness of all walls is uniform.
Now they vary between 2 and 3.45 ldu.
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 -46 0 10 -49 0 10
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 13 30 0 15 30
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 -26.5 10 0 -29.95 10
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 -14 10 0 -12 10
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 29 12 10 27 12 10.2759
When I look at the image of this part I think the thickness of all walls is uniform.
Now they vary between 2 and 3.45 ldu.
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 -46 0 10 -49 0 10
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 13 30 0 15 30
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 -26.5 10 0 -29.95 10
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 -14 10 0 -12 10
0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 29 12 10 27 12 10.2759
I measured the distances you indicated on the real piece and I reduced them to the value of 2 LDU.
Only the first dimension remains out of the modification due to the incorrect shape of the aclehole leading to a thickness of 3 LDU,
1.25 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 -46 0 10 -49 0 10
1.39 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 13 30 0 15 30
1.37 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 -26.5 10 0 -29.95 10
1.39 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 -14 10 0 -12 10
1.39 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 29 12 10 27 12 10.2759
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Only the first dimension remains out of the modification due to the incorrect shape of the aclehole leading to a thickness of 3 LDU,
1.25 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 -46 0 10 -49 0 10
1.39 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 13 30 0 15 30
1.37 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 -26.5 10 0 -29.95 10
1.39 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 0 -14 10 0 -12 10
1.39 mm 0 !LPE DISTANCE 4 29 12 10 27 12 10.2759
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Excellent. It immediately looks more "right".
Thank you.
Thank you.
2022-10-01 21:45:01
The "chestplate" part is definitely wrong, way flatter than how it should be
2022-12-09 08:15:02
2023-09-29 16:10:50
2023-10-31 03:34:34
Release 2023-05
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