File Detail parts/76100c02.dat

Official File parts/76100c02.dat

Part Attributes:

Technic Competition Cannon with Round Bottom (Loaded with Arrow)

File Header:

0 Technic Competition Cannon with Round Bottom (Loaded with Arrow)
0 Name: 76100c02.dat
0 Author: Santeri Piippo [arezey]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Shortcut UPDATE 2024-08
0 !LICENSE Licensed under CC BY 4.0 : see CAreadme.txt

0 BFC CERTIFY CCW

0 !HISTORY 2024-09-11 [MagFors] Restructured parts
0 !HISTORY 2024-09-15 [GeraldLasser] Corrected spring position
0 !HISTORY 2024-09-30 [OrionP] Official Update 2024-08

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1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32074c02.dat
1 494 0 -20 25.5 0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 71830-f2.dat
0 // Trigger, long
1 16 0 -14 37 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32075.dat
0 // Arrow
1 16 0 -20 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 76110p01.dat

Status:

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Part Events:

Archived Part Events:

[PTadmin]

renamed the part.

2017-07-20 11:15:16

"parts/76100c01.dat" to "parts/76100.dat."

Santeri Piippo [arezey]

initially submitted the part.

2018-01-31 22:00:00

Santeri Piippo [arezey]

submitted a new version of the part.

2018-01-31 22:00:00

Steffen [Steffen]

posted a vote of Hold.

2018-02-01 17:50:00

76100 is about to become 76100-f1
to be become analogous to 76100-f2

question now is: is this c01 an assembly of -f1 or -f2?

depending on that, it needs to become

76100-f1c01
or
76100c01-f1

resp.

76100-f2c01
or
76100c01-f2

Santeri Piippo [arezey]

made the following comment.

2018-02-01 19:45:00

I think that 76100c01 makes sense. That the cannon comes in two forms is a detail that shouldn't get reflected in the name of the assembly. This is an "unnumbered assembly" in one form only. if this assembly came in other forms, -f1 and -f2 prefixes would make sense.

Chris Dee [cwdee]

made the following comment.

2018-02-01 20:55:01

The -f1, -f2, etc suffices are not used to differentiate between shortcuts composed of different parts, that's the role of c01, c02, etc.
The -f1, -f2 suffices are used to represent different arrangements of the part(s) - such as an open/closed container or a compressed/relaxed spring. These suffices may be applied to a part number or a shortcut.
I think that there are some renames to be done here, but let me take a look at the email that Santeri has sent, before commenting further here.

[PTadmin]

edited the part header.

2018-02-03 11:10:01

Chris Dee [cwdee]

made the following comment.

2018-02-03 12:00:00

The file re-organistion for the earlier (round bottom) competition cannon has now been done, so that we have:
76100-f1 - cannon assembly with relaxed spring
76100-f2 - cannon assembly with compressed spring
76100c01 - cannon+arrow assembly (compressed spring)

I question the need for 32074c02 (cannon assembly without trigger). If the rationale is to allow users to easily create a version with the trigger pulled back, then I think it would be better to do that as a complete assembly as 76100-f3.

So that we don't lose the information from 'dulcaoin', the newer version comprises 57029 (body) + 57759 (lid) + 61280 (trigger) + 71830 (spring).

Santeri Piippo [arezey]

made the following comment.

2018-02-03 12:45:00

In 57796-f1.dat I moved the trigger back to contrast against the contracted version 57796-f2.dat. I would suggest the same here but the assembly has already been official.

Sylvain Sauvage [SLS]

made the following comment.

2018-02-03 12:55:00

"I question the need for 32074c02 (cannon assembly without trigger). If the rationale is to allow users to easily create a version with the trigger pulled back, then I think it would be better to do that as a complete assembly as 76100-f3."

A one-to-one match is needed for LDD to LDraw conversion and LDD has only two parts: the cannon (32074c02) and the trigger (32075).

Granted, LDD only has 57029 variant so it should actually be 57029c01 and 61280, but I guess the question will also arise for the newer variant and why treat the two variants differently?

Max Martin Richter [MMR1988]

posted a vote of Hold.

2022-03-03 20:40:01

This is now using a moved-to part.

Orion Pobursky [OrionP]

made the following comment.

2022-04-20 20:30:02

Part reference updated.

Max Martin Richter [MMR1988]

made the following comment.

2022-04-20 21:20:02

Removed hold