Unofficial File parts/85959p07.dat
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Base Part: 85959.dat
File Header:
0 Minifig Flame 7 L with Bar 0.8 with Marbled Trans Brown Flame Tip Pattern
0 Name: 85959p07.dat
0 Author: Vincent Messenet [Cheenzo]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Part
0 !LICENSE Licensed under CC BY 4.0 : see CAreadme.txt
0 BFC CERTIFY CCW
0 !CATEGORY Minifig Accessory
0 !KEYWORDS Bricklink 85959pb06, Rebrickable 85959pat0008, Set 60339, Set 75980
0 !KEYWORDS set 76417, Set 80010, Set 80011, Set 80016, Set 80019
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1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\85959s01.dat
1 40 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\85959s02.dat
1 40 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 s\85959s03.dat
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Part Events:
2024-09-12 19:59:27
2024-09-13 11:56:26
2024-09-13 13:38:36
This renders poorly with BFC on. I wonder if we shouldn't close up the subparts.
2024-12-05 16:19:07
I agree, and can do it.
But which subfile should be closed when there are more than 2 halves?
How do we do it on a blend of 2, or more, transparent colours?
But which subfile should be closed when there are more than 2 halves?
How do we do it on a blend of 2, or more, transparent colours?
2024-12-05 16:49:44
and from the BL pics, looks like there are variants with inside/outside marbling instead top/bottom...
quite visible in these parts:
85959pb02: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85959pb02#T=C
85959pb03: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85959pb03#T=C
the other parts are like here: top/bottom mixed, mostly transparent/transparent (how does that render? instead of transparent/solid)
quite visible in these parts:
85959pb02: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85959pb02#T=C
85959pb03: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85959pb03#T=C
the other parts are like here: top/bottom mixed, mostly transparent/transparent (how does that render? instead of transparent/solid)
2024-12-05 17:21:14
"This renders poorly with BFC on. I wonder if we shouldn't close up the subparts."
That's not necessary (actually would look bad) for fully transparent parts. And as René says, it seems that opaque/trans version have a different marbling pattern (could be done with a core like 1995 (https://library.ldraw.org/parts/list?tableSearch=1995p)
That's not necessary (actually would look bad) for fully transparent parts. And as René says, it seems that opaque/trans version have a different marbling pattern (could be done with a core like 1995 (https://library.ldraw.org/parts/list?tableSearch=1995p)
2024-12-05 17:30:13
i guess the "core" could be a separate subfile...
where is this data from? does LDD have the inner one too? or does this have to be done manually?
where is this data from? does LDD have the inner one too? or does this have to be done manually?
2024-12-05 22:01:47
Uploaded closed subfiles.
2024-12-05 22:14:22
why? now there is a inside face in a continuous colored area...
maybe revert that and use new subfiles...
in cases like this one, use only these borders where they are needed.
maybe revert that and use new subfiles...
in cases like this one, use only these borders where they are needed.
2024-12-06 07:49:12
This one is trans red/trans black, so there should be no internal closure. We must not get fooled by non-transparent color 16.
2024-12-06 08:09:59
"i guess the "core" could be a separate subfile...
where is this data from? does LDD have the inner one too? or does this have to be done manually?"
Nothing in BI mesh. it has to be done manually (like I did for 1995). BTW, the version that has opaque internal marbling has a different p/n, 94448: https://brickset.com/parts/design-94448
where is this data from? does LDD have the inner one too? or does this have to be done manually?"
Nothing in BI mesh. it has to be done manually (like I did for 1995). BTW, the version that has opaque internal marbling has a different p/n, 94448: https://brickset.com/parts/design-94448
2024-12-06 17:16:45
May I add a surface divider?
2024-12-06 17:42:33
According to me, no, as the real part is fully transparent, so separator wouldn't give good result.
2024-12-06 17:44:31
if any, only between different colors...
should these be inserted as BFC NOLIP? to be visible when viewed from both sides...
but then, which color?
should these be inserted as BFC NOLIP? to be visible when viewed from both sides...
but then, which color?
2024-12-06 17:44:33
Thinking more...maybe a BFC NOCERTIFY could be added to the separator so that it is seen properly from both sides.
2024-12-06 17:45:39
NOCLIP of course ;) René has a better explanation!
2024-12-06 18:25:47
You can see down "into" the solid portion of the part through the transparent section. You shouldn't be able to do this.
2024-12-06 18:55:01
the "solid" isnt solid, its transparent/transparent
2024-12-06 21:11:12
Unless the outside is painted (it isn't) then there is solid plastic. I shouldn't be able to see the inside faces or, in this case, those faces a culled and see "through" the part to the outside. NOCLIP doesn't solve this problem since it will just keep the faces from being culled but you will still see the interior of the part.
2024-12-06 21:52:31
You can see inside a fully transparent part, this one is. As I said above, "We must not get fooled by non-transparent color 16."
2024-12-06 22:37:25
But there is always a "border" between the two, or more, colours.
Here some of the surface in the "bottom" colour is missing.
Here some of the surface in the "bottom" colour is missing.
2024-12-06 23:13:39
would it help to put two differently faced and colored borders there (both only one sided via BFC)?
but which way should which color go? so you can view it from both ways and still get the right mix...
but which way should which color go? so you can view it from both ways and still get the right mix...
2024-12-06 23:16:47
i guess as long as the opacity comes from # of view axis entries/exits and not from the material thickness, this discussion is irrelevant as it will never be right...
2024-12-07 00:12:22
"We must not get fooled by non-transparent color 16."
LDraw parts can be any color. We need to account for this.
LDraw parts can be any color. We need to account for this.
2024-12-07 06:56:08
I've got an idea. Needs experimentations 😉
2024-12-07 14:22:53
"I've got an idea. Needs experimentations 😉"
Wasn't so successful...
Wasn't so successful...
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