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~Minifig Torso Blacktron I 2-Sided Front Half Pattern

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0 ~Minifig Torso Blacktron I 2-Sided Front Half Pattern
0 Name: s\973p6ls01.dat
0 Author: Philippe Hurbain [Philo]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Subpart UPDATE 2025-02
0 !LICENSE Licensed under CC BY 4.0 : see CAreadme.txt

0 BFC CERTIFY CCW

0 !HISTORY 2025-02-27 [OrionP] Official Update 2025-02

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4 16 11.73 5.36 -10 7.57 5.36 -10 7.27 5.84 -10 11.43 5.84 -10
4 16 11.43 5.84 -10 11.66 5.9 -10 11.96 5.3 -10 11.73 5.36 -10
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4 16 11.89 6.3 -10 14.345 2 -10 12.19 4.9 -10 12.13 5.13 -10
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4 16 6.31 9.2 -10 6.37 8.97 -10 6.61 7.8 -10 2.51 6.8 -10
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4 16 11.23 8.26 -10 11.16 8.8 -10 11.33 8.97 -10 11.46 8.2 -10
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4 16 6.47 10.14 -10 10.63 10.14 -10 10.93 9.66 -10 6.77 9.66 -10
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4 16 11.09 10.6 -10 11.03 10.83 -10 10.89 11.82 -10 10.97 12.1 -10
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4 16 10.89 12.38 -10 10.8 13.3 -10 10.8 15.9 -10 14.3 15.9 -10
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3 16 14.3 15.9 -10 10.97 12.1 -10 10.89 12.38 -10
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Part Events:

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Philippe Hurbain [Philo]

initially submitted the part.

2025-02-08 08:06:41

Rene Rechthaler [Blechtaler]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 10:36:49

should this get split? the front could get reused in the old 1-sided torso

Philippe Hurbain [Philo]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 10:43:24

If you find it's better and it's worth modifying old torso, then yes, should be split front/back. Is the old pattern really the same?

Rene Rechthaler [Blechtaler]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 10:46:26

they look very similar, maybe even identical...
your new pattern looks better than the old one.

Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 10:56:11

I'd say the old p52 is wrong, missing the three bottom rings. The rings are squared on p52.

Rene Rechthaler [Blechtaler]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 11:19:15

yes, thats why I requested a rework...
if the front half of this gets a separate file, should it be 973p6ls02 or 973p52s01?
I would tend to 973p52s01, use it in 973p52 and 973p6l.
Or is the change that big that p52 has to be obsoleted?

Philippe Hurbain [Philo]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 12:27:40

Subpart numbering is author choice, but yes, 973p52s01 would be fine.
"Or is the change that big that p52 has to be obsoleted?" Definitely no, no change in geometry.

Chris Böhnke [KnightOfTarenta]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 12:42:47

I tend to confirm that old and new are identical.

Any "difference" I could spot was likely just an issue with print strength or so subtle it would be hard to recreate accurately. As far as I can tell other sites also tend to see no difference.

Note that there was another eissue of the Blacktron I torso from the minifig collections (around 2010) which seems to have thicker lines and dots.

Chris Böhnke [KnightOfTarenta]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 12:50:31

Maybe I found one afterall:
The upper and lower segments of the "shoulder belts" seem to be thicker than the rest (if that can be found on all parts).
The original seems to have them all the same size.

Minor ones I found:
*The white trapezoidal shape at the neck seems a bit wider on the original
*The 3 black rings at the bottom seem larger and thinner
*The black circles in the mid area seem slightly smaller, more apart and a bit lower

Not sure if any of this can be confirmed.

Rene Rechthaler [Blechtaler]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 13:05:31

*The white trapezoidal shape at the neck seems a bit wider on the original
*The 3 black rings at the bottom seem larger and thinner
*The black circles in the mid area seem slightly smaller, more apart and a bit lower
i checked some of my spare torsos (all old ones), even there are differences...
-> line thickness, ring thickness, color intensity, position (print shift)

Chris Böhnke [KnightOfTarenta]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 13:56:27

Guess than it's not really worth it.

Orion Pobursky [OrionP]

made the following comment.

2025-02-08 20:03:30

I think the pattern can be reused. Those differences are minor at best.

Magnus Forsberg [MagFors]

posted a vote of Hold.

2025-02-18 19:46:28

Please split this, so we can reuse it in 973p52.